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1. Tollé en Amérique, mais aussi en Europe.

   Apparemment cela dérange surtout les malfaisants de la bienpensance car il n’est plus en tête dans les sondages, mais en deuxième position selon certaines informations.

   https://blogs.mediapart.fr/jean-paul-baquiast/blog/121215/immigration-musulmane-donald-trump-sait-ce-quil-fait

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2. Le magazine américain Time en profite pour canoniser Sainte Merkel de son vivant, vêtue de violet :
   http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2015-angela-merkel-choice/

3. …, Trump a raison; les intolérants, dehors ! ,… Patrick Lévy.

4. @ Loutchia
   Merci pour ces mails.
   Son grand soucis, la no-fly list. Et pas d’amalgame. L’islam n’est pas l’islam.
   Quelle bizarrerie de reprendre un mail récent pour le retravailler et le rendre public à son tour. Qu’en pensent les analystes indépendants ?

5. Personne n’ose le dire tout haut mais de plus en plus de personnes le disent tout bas … de moins en moins bas d’ailleurs… les musulmans devraient se demander pourquoi?

6. Comme toujours, nos journalistes ne donnent qu’une information partielle. M.Trump a demandé « a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our representatives can figure out what’s going on », c’est-à-dire que ce blocage des entrées ne durerait que jusqu’à ce que les autorités sachent exactement ce qui se passe dans la population musulmane. Si M. Obama est si sùr qu’il n’y a pas de danger majeur, qu’il le prouve et alors les Musulmans pourront de nouveau entrer aux États-Unis. Je rappelle qu’après Pearl Harbour, les Japonais ne pouvaient plus entrer aux États-Unis et qu’on avait même fait des camps d’internement pour ceux qui y habitaient. Et je crois savoir qu’il y a eu aussi des camps pour les Allemands en Grande-Bretagne. Je ne dis pas que M.Trump a raison, mais je suis atterré du manque de conscience professionnelle des journalistes qui se permettent de commenter des faits qu’ils ne connaissent pas. À titre d’exemple, le « 20 minutes » en allemand de ce matin a publié un article haineux contre Marion Maréchal-Le Pen comportant de nombreuses fautes, prétendant par exemple qu’elle aurait été déjà élue, tout comme Marine Le Pen. Cet article parlait d’élections départementales au lieu de régionales et confondait (volontairement ?) les mandats au niveau national, régional et départemental. Il ne mentionnait pas non plus pourquoi elle menaçait d’arrêter les subventions au planning familial de sa région, c’est-à-dire qu’elle voulait l’empêcher de faire de la publicité pour l’avortement. Ces fautes, à la limite excusables de la part d’un stagiaire de rédaction, ne sont pas dignes d’un journal digne de ce nom, qui devrait veiller à ne pas les laisser passer.

7. Obama est très actif sur internet! J’ai reçu ce 2ème courrier…. il y a quelques changements…..

   THE WHITE HOUSE

   Last night President Obama addressed the nation from the Oval Office.

   “Let’s not forget that freedom is more powerful than fear; that we have always met challenges — whether war or depression; natural disasters or terrorist attacks — by coming together around our common ideals as one nation and one people. So long as we stay true to that tradition, I have no doubt that America will prevail.”

   Good evening. On Wednesday, 14 Americans were killed as they came together to celebrate the holidays. They were taken from family and friends who loved them deeply. They were white and black; Latino and Asian; immigrants and American-born; moms and dads; daughters and sons. Each of them served their fellow citizens and all of them were part of our American family.

   Tonight, I want to talk with you about this tragedy, the broader threat of terrorism, and how we can keep our country safe.

   The FBI is still gathering the facts about what happened in San Bernardino, but here is what we know. The victims were brutally murdered and injured by one of their coworkers and his wife. So far, we have no evidence that the killers were directed by a terrorist organization overseas, or that they were part of a broader conspiracy here at home. But it is clear that the two of them had gone down the dark path of radicalization, embracing a perverted interpretation of Islam that calls for war against America and the West. They had stockpiled assault weapons, ammunition, and pipe bombs. So this was an act of terrorism, designed to kill innocent people.

   Our nation has been at war with terrorists since al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11. In the process, we’ve hardened our defenses — from airports to financial centers, to other critical infrastructure. Intelligence and law enforcement agencies have disrupted countless plots here and overseas, and worked around the clock to keep us safe. Our military and counterterrorism professionals have relentlessly pursued terrorist networks overseas — disrupting safe havens in several different countries, killing Osama bin Laden, and decimating al Qaeda’s leadership.

   Over the last few years, however, the terrorist threat has evolved into a new phase. As we’ve become better at preventing complex, multifaceted attacks like 9/11, terrorists turned to less complicated acts of violence like the mass shootings that are all too common in our society. It is this type of attack that we saw at Fort Hood in 2009, in Chattanooga earlier this year, and now in San Bernardino. And as groups like ISIL grew stronger amidst the chaos of war in Iraq and then Syria, and as the Internet erases the distance between countries, we see growing efforts by terrorists to poison the minds of people like the Boston Marathon bombers and the San Bernardino killers.

   For seven years, I’ve confronted this evolving threat each morning in my intelligence briefing. And since the day I took this office, I’ve authorized U.S. forces to take out terrorists abroad precisely because I know how real the danger is. As Commander-in-Chief, I have no greater responsibility than the security of the American people. As a father to two young daughters who are the most precious part of my life, I know that we see ourselves with friends and coworkers at a holiday party like the one in San Bernardino. I know we see our kids in the faces of the young people killed in Paris. And I know that after so much war, many Americans are asking whether we are confronted by a cancer that has no immediate cure.

   Well, here’s what I want you to know: The threat from terrorism is real, but we will overcome it. We will destroy ISIL and any other organization that tries to harm us. Our success won’t depend on tough talk, or abandoning our values, or giving into fear. That’s what groups like ISIL are hoping for. Instead, we will prevail by being strong and smart, resilient and relentless, and by drawing upon every aspect of American power.

   Here’s how. First, our military will continue to hunt down terrorist plotters in any country where it is necessary. In Iraq and Syria, airstrikes are taking out ISIL leaders, heavy weapons, oil tankers, infrastructure. And since the attacks in Paris, our closest allies — including France, Germany, and the United Kingdom — have ramped up their contributions to our military campaign, which will help us accelerate our effort to destroy ISIL.

   Second, we will continue to provide training and equipment to tens of thousands of Iraqi and Syrian forces fighting ISIL on the ground so that we take away their safe havens. In both countries, we’re deploying Special Operations Forces who can accelerate that offensive. We’ve stepped up this effort since the attacks in Paris, and we’ll continue to invest more in approaches that are working on the ground.

   Third, we’re working with friends and allies to stop ISIL’s operations — to disrupt plots, cut off their financing, and prevent them from recruiting more fighters. Since the attacks in Paris, we’ve surged intelligence-sharing with our European allies. We’re working with Turkey to seal its border with Syria. And we are cooperating with Muslim-majority countries — and with our Muslim communities here at home — to counter the vicious ideology that ISIL promotes online.

   Fourth, with American leadership, the international community has begun to establish a process — and timeline — to pursue ceasefires and a political resolution to the Syrian war. Doing so will allow the Syrian people and every country, including our allies, but also countries like Russia, to focus on the common goal of destroying ISIL — a group that threatens us all.

   This is our strategy to destroy ISIL. It is designed and supported by our military commanders and counterterrorism experts, together with 65 countries that have joined an American-led coalition. And we constantly examine our strategy to determine when additional steps are needed to get the job done. That’s why I’ve ordered the Departments of State and Homeland Security to review the visa program under which the female terrorist in San Bernardino originally came to this country. And that’s why I will urge high-tech and law enforcement leaders to make it harder for terrorists to use technology to escape from justice.

   Now, here at home, we have to work together to address the challenge. There are several steps that Congress should take right away.

   To begin with, Congress should act to make sure no one on a no-fly list is able to buy a gun. What could possibly be the argument for allowing a terrorist suspect to buy a semi-automatic weapon? This is a matter of national security.

   We also need to make it harder for people to buy powerful assault weapons like the ones that were used in San Bernardino. I know there are some who reject any gun safety measures. But the fact is that our intelligence and law enforcement agencies — no matter how effective they are — cannot identify every would-be mass shooter, whether that individual is motivated by ISIL or some other hateful ideology. What we can do — and must do — is make it harder for them to kill.

   Next, we should put in place stronger screening for those who come to America without a visa so that we can take a hard look at whether they’ve traveled to warzones. And we’re working with members of both parties in Congress to do exactly that.

   Finally, if Congress believes, as I do, that we are at war with ISIL, it should go ahead and vote to authorize the continued use of military force against these terrorists. For over a year, I have ordered our military to take thousands of airstrikes against ISIL targets. I think it’s time for Congress to vote to demonstrate that the American people are united, and committed, to this fight.

   My fellow Americans, these are the steps that we can take together to defeat the terrorist threat. Let me now say a word about what we should not do.

   We should not be drawn once more into a long and costly ground war in Iraq or Syria. That’s what groups like ISIL want. They know they can’t defeat us on the battlefield. ISIL fighters were part of the insurgency that we faced in Iraq. But they also know that if we occupy foreign lands, they can maintain insurgencies for years, killing thousands of our troops, draining our resources, and using our presence to draw new recruits.

   The strategy that we are using now — airstrikes, Special Forces, and working with local forces who are fighting to regain control of their own country — that is how we’ll achieve a more sustainable victory. And it won’t require us sending a new generation of Americans overseas to fight and die for another decade on foreign soil.

   Here’s what else we cannot do. We cannot turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam. That, too, is what groups like ISIL want. ISIL does not speak for Islam. They are thugs and killers, part of a cult of death, and they account for a tiny fraction of more than a billion Muslims around the world — including millions of patriotic Muslim Americans who reject their hateful ideology. Moreover, the vast majority of terrorist victims around the world are Muslim. If we’re to succeed in defeating terrorism we must enlist Muslim communities as some of our strongest allies, rather than push them away through suspicion and hate.

   That does not mean denying the fact that an extremist ideology has spread within some Muslim communities. This is a real problem that Muslims must confront, without excuse. Muslim leaders here and around the globe have to continue working with us to decisively and unequivocally reject the hateful ideology that groups like ISIL and al Qaeda promote; to speak out against not just acts of violence, but also those interpretations of Islam that are incompatible with the values of religious tolerance, mutual respect, and human dignity.

   But just as it is the responsibility of Muslims around the world to root out misguided ideas that lead to radicalization, it is the responsibility of all Americans — of every faith — to reject discrimination. It is our responsibility to reject religious tests on who we admit into this country. It’s our responsibility to reject proposals that Muslim Americans should somehow be treated differently. Because when we travel down that road, we lose. That kind of divisiveness, that betrayal of our values plays into the hands of groups like ISIL. Muslim Americans are our friends and our neighbors, our co-workers, our sports heroes — and, yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country. We have to remember that.

   My fellow Americans, I am confident we will succeed in this mission because we are on the right side of history. We were founded upon a belief in human dignity — that no matter who you are, or where you come from, or what you look like, or what religion you practice, you are equal in the eyes of God and equal in the eyes of the law.

   Even in this political season, even as we properly debate what steps I and future Presidents must take to keep our country safe, let’s make sure we never forget what makes us exceptional. Let’s not forget that freedom is more powerful than fear; that we have always met challenges — whether war or depression, natural disasters or terrorist attacks — by coming together around our common ideals as one nation, as one people. So long as we stay true to that tradition, I have no doubt America will prevail.

   Thank you. God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.

8. Avez-vous lu les déclarations de Obama? Trois lignes sur les attentats d’islamistes de ces derniers temps aux Etats-Unis, et des paragraphes entiers pour “pasdamalame” “pasdestigmatisation”! J’ai reçu ce courrier:

   Tonight, I addressed the nation from the Oval Office on my top priority as President: Keeping the American people safe.

   It weighs heavily on the hearts and minds of all of us in the wake of the terrible tragedy in San Bernardino. Fourteen Americans — dads, moms, daughters, sons — were taken from us as they came together to celebrate the holidays. Each of them a public servant. All of them a part of our American family.

   The FBI is still gathering the facts about what happened in San Bernardino, but here is what we know. We have no evidence that the killers were directed by a terrorist organization overseas, or that they were part of a broader conspiracy here at home. But it is clear that these killers had embraced a perversion of Islam, stockpiled assault weapons, and committed an act of terrorism.

   Our nation has been at war with terrorists since al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11. Since then, we’ve hardened our defenses. Our intelligence and law enforcement agencies have disrupted countless plots and worked around the clock to keep us safe. Our military and counter-terrorism professionals have relentlessly pursued terrorist networks overseas — disrupting safe havens, killing Osama bin Laden, and decimating al Qaeda’s leadership.

   But over the last few years, the threat has evolved as terrorists have turned to less complicated acts of violence like the mass shootings that are all-too common in our society. For the past seven years, I have confronted the evolution of this threat each morning. Your security is my greatest responsibility. And I know that, after so much war, many Americans are asking whether we are confronted by a cancer that has no immediate cure.

   So, tonight, this is what I want you to know: The threat of terrorism is real, but we will overcome it. We will destroy ISIL and any other organization that tries to harm us. Here’s how:

   First, our military will continue to hunt down terrorist plotters in any country where it is necessary, using air strikes to take out ISIL leaders and their infrastructure in Iraq and Syria. And since the attacks in Paris, our closest allies – France, Germany, and the United Kingdom – have ramped up their contributions to our military campaign, which will help us accelerate our effort to destroy ISIL.

   Second, we will continue to provide training and equipment to Iraqi and Syrian forces fighting ISIL on the ground so that we take away their safe havens. In both countries, we are deploying Special Operations forces who can accelerate that offensive.

   Third, we are leading a coalition of 65 countries to stop ISIL’s operations by disrupting plots, cutting off their financing, and preventing them from recruiting more fighters.

   Fourth, with American leadership, the international community has established a process and timeline to pursue cease-fires and a political resolution to the Syrian civil war. Doing so will allow the Syrian people and every country to focus on the common goal of destroying ISIL.

   That is our strategy — designed and supported by military commanders, counter-terrorism experts, and countries committed to defeating these terrorists. And we constantly examine further steps needed to get the job done. That is why I have ordered the Departments of State and Homeland Security to review the visa program under which the female terrorist in San Bernardino originally came to this country. And that is why I will urge high tech and law enforcement leaders to make it harder for terrorists to use technology to escape from justice.

   Here at home, we can do more together to immediately address this challenge.

   To start, Congress should act to make sure that no one on a No Fly List is able to buy a gun. What possible argument can be made for allowing a terrorist suspect to buy a semi-automatic weapon? This is a matter of national security. I know there are some who reject any gun safety measure, but no matter how effective our intelligence and law enforcement agencies, we cannot identify every would-be mass shooter. What we can do, and must do, is make it harder for them to kill.

   Next, we should put in place stronger screening for those who come to America without a visa so that we can know if they’ve traveled to war zones. And finally, if Congress believes, as I do, that we are at war with ISIL, then it should vote to authorize the continued use of military force against these terrorists.

   This is what we should do. But I’d like to also say a word about what we should not do.

   We should not be drawn once again into a long and costly ground war in Iraq or Syria. That’s what groups like ISIL want. We also cannot turn against one another by letting this fight become a war between America and Islam. That, too, is what groups like ISIL want. ISIL does not speak for Islam. They are thugs and killers, and account for a tiny fraction of more than a billion Muslims around the world who reject their hateful ideology.

   If we are to succeed in defeating terrorism, we must enlist Muslim communities as our strongest allies in rooting out misguided ideas that lead to radicalization. It is the responsibility of all Americans — of every faith — to reject discrimination. It is our responsibility to reject religious tests on who we admit into this country. It is our responsibility to reject language that encourages suspicion or hate. Because that kind of divisiveness, that betrayal of our values, plays into the hands of groups like ISIL. We have to remember that.

   I am confident America will succeed in this mission because we are on the right side of history. Even as we debate our differences, let’s make sure we never forget what makes us exceptional: We were founded upon a belief in human dignity — the idea that no matter who you are, or where you come from, or what you look like, or what religion you practice, you are equal in the eyes of God and equal in the eyes of the law.

   Let’s not forget that freedom is more powerful than fear. That we have always met challenges — whether war or depression; natural disasters or terrorist attacks — by coming together around our common ideals. As long as we stay true to who we are, then I have no doubt that America will prevail.

   Thank you,
   President Barack Obama

9. @ bigjames

   Je pense qu’il faudrait commencer à se mobiliser contre les “gauchistes bien-pensants.” C’est d’eux que vient le danger!

10. Enfin de la clairvoyance…

11. L’islam n’est ni une race ni une religion: c’est une législation étrangère diabolique, la charia, et cette charia est contraire au droit américain. Interdire la charia, l’islam, et les musulmans n’est donc ni raciste ni contraire à la liberté de religion, c’est la loi. Les imams ont inventé la charia pour pouvoir commander les mahométans à leur guise. Ils achètent les armes et les munitions qu’ils donnent aux terroristes obéissants à Mahomet. Mahomet ordonne de mentir aux chrétiens, de voler les chrétiens, de violer les chrétiennes, de tuer les chrétiens. Il promet aux mahométans 72 gamines vierges par chrétien assassiné. Une promesse que Allah=Satan ne remplira évidemment pas!

12. Scandale???Franchement je ne vois pas le problème sur cette demande plus que légitime et c’est d’ailleurs la question que toute nation censée devrait se poser!? Ne dit-on pas que seule la vérité blesse? Lorsqu’on voit et entend ce que déverse comme haine en actions et paroles, ces mahométans contre les populations Occidental et plus particulièrement chrétiennes, ce serait un moindre mal.
    Les ricains auraient été bien inspirés de le faire à l’époque des tours jumelles déjà. Trump tape juste et ça dérange ce petit monde de politiciens faux culs, qui font semblant de s’en offusquer! Alors qu’ils sont certainement du même avis, mais ne l’avoueront jamais, car… schoking!? Moi aussi, mais c’était le 11 septembre 2001!!!
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13. Cet homme est un visionnaire il est plein de bon sens. Qui oserait dire que l’on vit mieux depuis que nous sommes envahis par les musulmans ?

14. …, tolérer les intolérants ? Patrick Lévy.

15. Trump me fait un peu penser à Jean-Marie Le Pen dans les années 80, tentant en vain de faire comprendre aux Français le risque énorme que représente l’islamisation de leur pays, et s’attirant les foudres de toute la classe politique de l’époque.
    L’histoire se répète, malheureusement.
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16. Il ne serait pas intéressé par une naturalisation express puis être élu au conseil fédéral ? Nous en aurions bien besoin !

17. Il y a 20 – 30 ans, les musulmans n’était qu’une infime partie de la population européenne.
    Nous vivions en paix, sans crainte, en parfaite harmonie avec nos pays voisins.
    Puis l’UE a fait ses ravages, petit à petit, et maintenant nous en sommes au chaos.
    La guerre nous guette, et la cinquième colonne est déjà bien installée grâce à nos gauchistes bien-pensants.
    L’arrêt de l’immigration musulmane et la rémigration est nécessaire à la survie de nos enfants.
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18. AntiChrist, (=Mahomet) dont le culte diabolique commence 666 ans après Christ, a ordonné aux Anti-Chrétiens (=les mahométans) de mentir aux Chrétiens, de les dévaliser, de violer les chrétiennes, de massacrer les chrétiens, ceci afin de procurer 4 femmes à chaque mahométan croyant. Il suffit de lire la vie de Mahomet pour comprendre. On trouve assez de résumés de la vie de Mahomet sur Internet.
    Les mahométans prétendent que Mahomet est l’homme parfait, à copier.
    A en croire ce que j’ai lu sur divers résumés de la vie de Mahomet, il avait:
    1) enfumé un village en disant que sa charia est législation de paix et d’amour.
    2) fit prisonnier les 700 mecs du village fidèle à Dieu donc infidèle à Satan.
    3) décapita lui même les 700 mecs car ils étaient infidèles à Allah = Satan.
    4) distribua les 700 fermes avec fermières à ses soldats violeurs esclavagistes.
    5) garda pour lui 20% du butin volé: l’or, l’argent, et les gamines vierges.
    6) une fois remplies, Mahomet refila les gamines enceintes à ses lieutenants.
    7) gamins, gamines, et fermières chrétiennes durent travailler comme esclaves
    8) L’armée de Mahomet mangea le bétail et toutes les réserves de céréales.
    9) Ayant tout mangé mais rien replanté, Mahomet attaqua le village suivant.
    10) Et ainsi de suite sur 27 villages, successivement. L’EI Voleur fait de même.
    11) Mahomet viola ses 13 femmes et 59 esclaves sexuelles, total 72 vierges.
    12) A part ça, Mahomet se vantait d’avoir violé des garçons et des cadavres.
    13) Mahomet fit tuer toute la famille d’une jolie femme voulant lui échapper.
    14) Quand Mahomet prétend que l’Ange Gabriel a écrit le Coran, il ment.
    15) Il fit assassiner tous ceux qui le critiquaient, dont pas mal de femmes.
    16) Il était tellement “aimable” avec ses femmes qu’elles l’ont empoisonné.
    17) Mais c’est a vous de rechercher et de relire les “exploits” de Mahomet.
    18) AntiChrist expliqua aux Anti-Chrétiens comment décapiter les chrétiens.
    19) Mahomet promit aux mahométans le paradis et 72 vierges par chrétien tué.
    20) pour les psychopathes de l’EIV, copier Mahomet=AntiChrist c’est le rêve.

19. Il n’y a pas à hurler : Trump parle avec bon sens.

20. Cela parait un peut excessif tout de même. Commençons par fermer les mosquées, à tout le moins les plus sulfureuses et interdire l’exhibition de leur magasin d’accessoires.

21. D. Trump propose simplement un moratoire. Tout le monde est scandalisé mais au prochain attentat on dira effectivement c’est peut-être une idée à discuter et ensuite à exécuter.
    Quand il y a eu une proposition de fermer les frontières tout le monde à hurler et maintenant ….